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Simmoncelli avatar
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 15:41
Author: Trusted UploaderSite FriendET junkieET lover
I've been experimenting my server for encoding lately and last week I tried my hands on a x265 Movie. Its bitrate was I guess 3400 Kbps n was 1080p and I re encoded it to 720p @ 1000Kbps and it took 6 hours for my server to do the job!!!

If I compare the results with others re encoding I did it is much much longer than usual, I'll say2-3 times more.

So just want to know is it worth waiting for x265 or x264 is gd to go?

Edit : - I'm just curious to know and no pun intended :) n plz don't say Google it :)
Deviance12479 avatar
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 08:22
Author:
x265 is best what i think so but what bad is that it doesn't works on my Samsung 42-inch LED if you do the movies in 300-500 Mbs then that would be awesome. I can't encode to x265 as my computer is slower damn it's Corei3 and it takes a hell to encode so i use x264 for uploading basically and x265 for downloading when i don't want to watch movie on my TV.
Simmoncelli avatar
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 04:54
Author: Trusted UploaderSite FriendET junkieET lover
Deviance12479 wrote:
x265 is best what i think so but what bad is that it doesn't works on my Samsung 42-inch LED if you do the movies in 300-500 Mbs then that would be awesome. I can't encode to x265 as my computer is slower damn it's Corei3 and it takes a hell to encode so i use x264 for uploading basically and x265 for downloading when i don't want to watch movie on my TV.

Yeah the x265 takes hell lot of time to encode or re encode even for smaller size as compared to x264. Thanks for the only reply LOL
ozi avatar
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 06:31
Author: SuperAdmin
x265 is shit its not universally compatible like x264
you can get the same results in x264 by increasing crf levels by just 1 or 2
eg..
if using crf 19.0 increase it to 20.0 or 21.0 with preset slow you will get the same outcome as x265 in compression and faster encoding
if you want even higher compression move your Preset level to slower or very slow but this will slow down encoding

and x264/x265 dont work on bit rates you can have something as low as 200kps to 1000kps both in the same outcome in quality
only difference will be files size quality wont differ if the files size is big
it all depends on what you set crf level to
Simmoncelli avatar
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:54
Author: Trusted UploaderSite FriendET junkieET lover
ozi wrote:
x265 is shit its not universally compatible like x264
you can get the same results in x264 by increasing crf levels by just 1 or 2
eg..
if using crf 19.0 increase it to 20.0 or 21.0 with preset slow you will get the same outcome as x265 in compression and faster encoding
if you want even higher compression move your Preset level to slower or very slow but this will slow down encoding

and x264/x265 dont work on bit rates you can have something as low as 200kps to 1000kps both in the same outcome in quality
only difference will be files size quality wont differ if the files size is big
it all depends on what you set crf level to

Thanks a lot , next time I do re encoding I'll try what you said about crf level
Thanks again ozi
dankoni avatar
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:51
Author:
Hi there,
I tried hevc, but my config is also too weak for seriously work with encoding x265.
On the other hand, I do not agree with ozi.
HEVC is superb in any aspect in comparison to x264. It's simply the future.
With good software and settings (of course also with huge processing power) you can do <1GB video files that is better than x264 4GB file.

It is just matter of time when x265 overcome x264.
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ozi avatar
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 00:20
Author: SuperAdmin
dankoni wrote:
Hi there,
I tried hevc, but my config is also too weak for seriously work with encoding x265.
On the other hand, I do not agree with ozi.
HEVC is superb in any aspect in comparison to x264. It's simply the future.
With good software and settings (of course also with huge processing power) you can do <1GB video files that is better than x264 4GB file.

It is just matter of time when x265 overcome x264.

compression with x265 is great but it's no good to anyone when its not universally completable
most people like watching stuff on tv's not in front of there computers
common house hold tv's don't support x265 steaming them is difficult it always comes with problems
as for it taking over i doubt it that means new chip set for tv's,bluray players and devices i highly doubt they will make such drastic changes
when they have still have minor problems with x264 on some devices

XpoZ avatar
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 20:34
Author: Trusted UploaderTurtle
For Me x264 is okey.
No avatar
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 23:28
Author:
x265 HEVC is much better now. It has improved from a year ago.
Vinyl avatar
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 04:28
Author: Blocked
Like the man said, i've downloaded a couple of these new HVEC x265 uploads and was not able to watch them on my new samsung TV and i rarely if ever watch anything on my computer or laptop because its not comfortable.
babykins1982 avatar
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 18:14
Author: Site FriendET junkieET loverKittyGirlSun
Yeah, x264 is still good for me :)

I too have downloaded a few x265 things, and can't get them to play on anything - computer, wdtv live, etc. I gave up with x265 and decided that I wasted limited bandwidth and am just sticking with x264.


I love my wdtv box, and they have pretty much said "unofficially" of course, that x265 won't be supported in the future, so I am sticking to x264 :)
Vinyl avatar
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 01:15
Author: Blocked
that being said, I think its cool that you have a curiosity about such things and are constantly looking to improve the quality of your uploaded content SS so keep up the good work mate and thanks for what you bring to the show - don't stop...
Admiral_Smith avatar
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 23:04
Author: Trial UploaderTurtle
Encoding in x265 is slow. I also think that x265 is not going to be a supported format in mainstream of hardware decoding for a while. I guess if you have the time then encode them in HEVC format. I would still just encode them in x264 just because video decoding of the H264 format is in the hardware and has been for a while. x265 relies on software video decoding unless someone has snazzy hardware that supports it. This also goes for VP9 which I played around with. x265 does have an advantage and it is the smaller file size than x264 but it does take longer to compile the video into that desired format.
bxyhxyh avatar
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 14:46
Author:
If you're aiming to make big rip like 8gb+ x264 is much better for same bitrate. (for now)
For low bitrates like 1000 or 2000 x265 is better.
EtLesnar avatar
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 01:35
Author: Trusted UploaderSite Friend
my x264 encode time is 15 to 20 mins

x265 make more time like 2 hours
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